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Fair competitor to sue over drugged sheep

Robert Smith believes someone got his prize-winning sheep disqualified.

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markbsae - 10/2/2012 8:14 AM
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So who does he plan to sue? It isn't the responsibility of the fair to watch your animals. Its YOURS.

afailedsystem - 10/1/2012 3:23 AM
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TheTruth- this story has really been bugging me. Let's start with there essentially is not a "lethal" dose of penacillan. A mere overdose would interfere with the process of healing. HOWEVER.......you stated the animals tested Negative before judging and positive after. This is where it gets interesting.......I know a few large animal vets who say this. Although unlikely to make a sizable difference in a short period of time, penacillan can act kind of like a steroid, addiing body muscle and mass. So the fact it was test was positive BEFORE WEIGH IN AND MARKET makes perfect sense!! Mr. Litigious perhaps was trying to pick up a few pounds before sale to meat (chuckle chuckle) his unlikely $10,000 dream expectation. I guess every pound counts. He should have just dead them fish weights......might of got away with it!! This story is hilarious!

afailedsystem - 9/30/2012 7:45 PM
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The Truth- while I do no agree with much of what you say......you REALLY must explain that if in fact it was "penicillin" as you state, then according to the rules there would not have been ANY violation. Last I checked, penicillin is antibiotic and not a sedative or tranquilizer or mind altering drug. Therefore, no disqualification. I believe the rule is in place to prevent competitors to sedate and better control their animals for showing purposes. It would be beneficial more so in a showmanship class. That said, any half life on a mild sedative to calm an otherwise "high spirited" animal more than likely would have been out of their system. Also, I'm not sure.....but I think it would be TOUGH to overdose on penicillin. This is the first I have ever heard of this. That said, I wish I had thought of it when I was younger. My father was a dairyman and I had access too all kinds of drugs....would have LOVED to dope up some of my 1200 pound springers before a showmanship class where they would drag me around the ring like a rag doll. A bit different than a 90 pound farm poodle!!

georgieboy - 9/30/2012 4:49 PM
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Now we have to have cameras to watch our animals to make sure no one gives them inappropriate drugs? WOW This is most certianly a sick society.

RVLADY - 9/30/2012 1:29 PM
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Aren't they allowed to camp out & watch their animals???

TheTruth22 - 9/30/2012 1:03 PM
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Actually he is right about how much the grand champion is worth. Last years grand went for over $14,000! Those $10,000 estimates are low balled. Do any of you know what drug came up in the testing? It was a level so high of penicillin that it should have killed the sheep. And did you know that they tested the lamb twice: once before judging and once afterwards. The one taken before the judging came back clean. However, the one taken the next day after judging, came up with the high level of penicillin. So, why would a person "dope" their $10,000+ Grand Champion lamb with a lethal amount of penicillin AFTER the judging had already taken place? People on here need to get the full story before they start passing judgement.

afailedsystem - 9/30/2012 8:26 AM
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First of all let's start with winning $10,000 per sheep......that's.....well, SHEEP MANEUR! I showed dairy at KCF for many years (many years ago) and you did not "win" any money!! You lined up a buyer and sold your animal. I may be wrong, but it is HIGHLY doubtful his kids were both going to sell their sheep for $100 plus per pound. I'm not sure but I think the record is around $118 per pound for a GRAND CHAMPION!! That was an ex of mine whose farmer parents had lined up 100 buyers to give $1 per pound or something. Look at the boards posted on the auction barn. Sorry, but if he were going to sell a grand and a champion lamb for $100 a pound......the idiot buyer he lined up probably drugged the sheep so he wouldn't have to go through with the purchase. The true shame here is a.) teaching your child to be litigious and b.) teaching your children that lambs cost over $100 per pound!! Ridiculous!!!! I know if I had 2 lambs worth over $20,000 I would have had around the clock sheep guards with them!!! Come on!!!!

proudparent7 - 9/29/2012 2:20 PM
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You are right, I watched them perform the urine test following the show. The auction however, was 4 days later. Regardless, I felt like they should have mentioned it so that the children could use this as a learning opportunity on being truthful & competing honestly.

DR999 - 9/29/2012 1:57 PM
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proudparent7, the illegal substances weren't discovered in the sheep until AFTER the judging was over. So it would obviously be impossible to mention it at the sheep auction. So it's not odd at all.

proudparent7 - 9/29/2012 9:18 AM
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I found it odd, and disheartening that this wasn't even mentioned or addressed at the sheep auction. If there was cheating involved, shame on them! That is not the message we should be teaching our children....win at all cost. And, if this was a malicious act against these competetors, then shame on those responsible! Unbelivable that we can't go out there & enjoy the children, the projects that they work so hard on, & compete fairly.
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